Do you think that we will see another ULCC (ultra low cost carrier) to serve central Illinois? (Besides Allegiant). Frontier has been entering smaller markets like Madison, WI and Cedar Rapids, IA. And spirit also is in smaller markets (Like La Trobe, PA and Atlantic City, NJ). I am hoping to see service to Denver from Peoria start back up in the near future.
If United [Express] doesn't resume Peoria-Denver soon, the airport authority may try to lure Frontier Airlines. I'd be surprised if UA service to Denver doesn't resume within a year though.
I know Conrail allowed MILW to conduct interchange with TP&W at Kentland when MILW gained trackage rights on CR after abandoning its parallel line through Webster. However, I have never heard if UP/SBD allowed SOO/MILW to interchange with TP&W at Watseka after receiving new trackage rights when Conrail abandoned its own line. Shawn
Erik Berg's Kentland Album on Flickr shows AT&SF and MILW/SOO interchange operations still existed as late as 1988, even as AT&SF was trying to sell its ex-TP&W lines and SOO was negotiating with CSX for trackage rights between Chicago and Terre Haute to get off Conrail's slow route between the same points.
The SOO shifted its trains to CSX on January 9, 1989 and TP&W was reborn less than a month later on February 3. The TP&W's entry in the Official Railway Guide's Nov-Dec 1989 edition does list SOO as a connection, so it is possible that it hadn't yet given up trackage rights on Conrail between Chicago and Terre Haute. I can't imagine though that they continued using this line simply to interchange with TP&W as volume was too small to justify such operations.
A few thoughts -
(1) AT&SF-SOO interchange in the late 1980s probably consisted of occasional lumber to ex-TP&W customers such as Illinois River Lumber Co. in East Peoria and Morton Buildings in Morton, grain from North Dakota and/or Minnesota to ADM's barge loadout in Peoria (there was an actual move like this from Minneapolis in 1983). Scrap metal from SOO origins in Chicago or Wisconsin to Caterpillar's Mapleton foundry was possible as well. Hubinger's Keokuk wet corn refinery may have shipped corn syrup to SOO-served food processors in the Chicago area and in Wisconsin.
(2) When the SOO negotiated with CSX for trackage rights between Chicago and Terre Haute, it was either uninterested in securing interchange rights with then-Santa Fe at Watseka or CSX refused to allow it. CSX might have refused to allow it to avoid having regular coal train interchange (two 90-car trains per week, plus a combined train of empties) disrupted.
(3) Interchange between SOO and AT&SF had diminished to a point that neither carrier sought to maintain their connection after the shift to CSX trackage rights. If volume was significant, then one would think a shipper or two would have objected to SOO's shift to CSX if it didn't include AT&SF interchange rights at Watseka. But volume was probably insignificant, and no one opposed the change in trackage.
Last Friday evening, Union Pacific ran an MMCPR (Manifest, Mason City IA to Proviso IL) down the Peoria Subdivision. It ran an MMTPR (Manifest, Marshalltown IA to Proviso IL) last evening and another MMCPR this Friday evening. All three were enroute to the Alton & Southern Railway's Gateway Yard in East St. Louis, which is probably where these trains' traffic ends up anyway. I caught the latter two, and just after sunset managed to capture video of the latest MMCPR rolling under BNSF's Mendota Sub near Buda. UP motors 5374-5812-2475-5494-6792-5868 had 75 cars of agricultural traffic. Train stopped briefly for dispatcher radio chatter then resumed its journey. MPECL waited at Edelstein Siding for MMCPR's passage. Word is that Union Pacific is experiencing a traffic meltdown at Proviso Yard (near Chicago), and is detouring or re-routing many trains to unplug the mess. I doubt the problem is anywhere close to being solved so expect more such ...
Rising air fares and reduced jet service plagued PIA in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Despite some moderate success in its efforts to convince carriers to cut fares and increase service, nothing could prevent the blow Peoria received in mid-January 1991. Let's review events by airline. My primary source is the North American Edition of OAG's July 15, 1991 Desktop Flight Guide . AMERICAN AIRLINES/AMERICAN EAGLE (Simmons Airlines/Flagship Airlines) Although it added (resumed, technically, after 29 years) Peoria to its network late in 1991, news preceding American Airlines' re-introduction of Chicago jet service rated much media coverage throughout the year. A March 15 Peoria Journal Star story indicated that service could begin in August. Progress came on May 8 when the Federal Aviation Administration proposed modification of the High Density Rule to allow for jet aircraft of up to 110 sets to use slots designated for commuter flights. The rule change would be in ...
The Pioneer Industrial Railway (PRY) began operations twenty years ago today, February 20. On February 18, 1998, the wholly-owned subsidiary of Peoria, Ill.-based Pioneer Railcorp assumed the Peoria & Pekin Union Railway's contract with the City of Peoria and Village of Peoria Heights to operate the Peoria, Peoria Heights & Western Railroad. PRY ran its first train on February 20. It was forced to vacate the line in August 2005 but returned in January 2008 when the federal Surface Transportation Board restored its operating rights. Part I covers the period from 1998 to 2004 when the City began its efforts to convert most of the PPH&W, or "Kellar Branch," into a recreational trail. When I get time to create it, Part II will focus on the legal fight with the City in 2004-2005 and the failure of rail service in 2006-2007 that led to PRY's restoration. Update (March 14, 2018): I have sufficient material for three parts. Part III will conclude...
Do you think that we will see another ULCC (ultra low cost carrier) to serve central Illinois? (Besides Allegiant). Frontier has been entering smaller markets like Madison, WI and Cedar Rapids, IA. And spirit also is in smaller markets (Like La Trobe, PA and Atlantic City, NJ). I am hoping to see service to Denver from Peoria start back up in the near future.
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DeleteI know Conrail allowed MILW to conduct interchange with TP&W at Kentland when MILW gained trackage rights on CR after abandoning its parallel line through Webster. However, I have never heard if UP/SBD allowed SOO/MILW to interchange with TP&W at Watseka after receiving new trackage rights when Conrail abandoned its own line.
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Erik Berg's Kentland Album on Flickr shows AT&SF and MILW/SOO interchange operations still existed as late as 1988, even as AT&SF was trying to sell its ex-TP&W lines and SOO was negotiating with CSX for trackage rights between Chicago and Terre Haute to get off Conrail's slow route between the same points.
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The SOO shifted its trains to CSX on January 9, 1989 and TP&W was reborn less than a month later on February 3. The TP&W's entry in the Official Railway Guide's Nov-Dec 1989 edition does list SOO as a connection, so it is possible that it hadn't yet given up trackage rights on Conrail between Chicago and Terre Haute. I can't imagine though that they continued using this line simply to interchange with TP&W as volume was too small to justify such operations.
A few thoughts -
(1) AT&SF-SOO interchange in the late 1980s probably consisted of occasional lumber to ex-TP&W customers such as Illinois River Lumber Co. in East Peoria and Morton Buildings in Morton, grain from North Dakota and/or Minnesota to ADM's barge loadout in Peoria (there was an actual move like this from Minneapolis in 1983). Scrap metal from SOO origins in Chicago or Wisconsin to Caterpillar's Mapleton foundry was possible as well. Hubinger's Keokuk wet corn refinery may have shipped corn syrup to SOO-served food processors in the Chicago area and in Wisconsin.
(2) When the SOO negotiated with CSX for trackage rights between Chicago and Terre Haute, it was either uninterested in securing interchange rights with then-Santa Fe at Watseka or CSX refused to allow it. CSX might have refused to allow it to avoid having regular coal train interchange (two 90-car trains per week, plus a combined train of empties) disrupted.
(3) Interchange between SOO and AT&SF had diminished to a point that neither carrier sought to maintain their connection after the shift to CSX trackage rights. If volume was significant, then one would think a shipper or two would have objected to SOO's shift to CSX if it didn't include AT&SF interchange rights at Watseka. But volume was probably insignificant, and no one opposed the change in trackage.
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